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  • Sorry ’bout your pute.. Sounds like maybe a virus and not a hardware issue. It may just need to have the OS reloaded. (from one of your techy nerdo GIRL readers. :))

    Hecticmom Undones last blog post..I love AAA

    August 24, 2008
  • KAT

    Oh. Gawd. Awful.
    I went through this a year ago, when my cpu got dropped as it was being loaded onto the moving truck. Ended up costing… way too much, I won’t even say cuz yours might be less and I don’t want to freak you out. They were able to save most of what was on my HD. And then I meant to run out and get a secure back-up, external hard drive, remote online back up, etc etc etc, and have I got any of that yet, a year later? No. No, I have not. I think I’m going to do that remote thing, though. Only around $10 a month, and SO worth it when something like this happens.

    KATs last blog post..Weekly Winner

    August 24, 2008
  • I feel your pain!! The computer I am using now has been to the shop THREE TIMES for doing the exact same stuff yours is doing now. Luckily I didn’t lose any data any of those times because the problems were not HD related. I am wishing you the same!!

    If you go to a shop that has shopping carts nearby, go into the store first, get a cart and take it out to your car. Take the computer and Braden in that way. No lugging computers and kids at the same time. Otherwise, use the stroller to carry it. :) Gosh I miss having a stroller! lol

    Athenas last blog post..blue skies and big, fluffy, white clouds.

    August 24, 2008
  • ACK!

    Ok, take a deep breath… it’s less than a year old, so isn’t it covered by warranty?

    Goaldeebugs last blog post..Happy Fucking Birthday!

    August 24, 2008
  • Dude I’m so sorry. And I just wanna say, for the record, I did NOT marry that man simply because he was a tech nerd. Cuz that would be wrong.

    Lisas last blog post..Cubans & Clafoutis

    August 24, 2008
  • The same thing happen to me last year. I thought I was going to throw up with the thought of losing all my pictures of my kiddos. When I got it to the Computer Dr. they luckily found my files were not corrupt and they saved them for me. From then on, I backed up all my pictures.

    Daphnes last blog post..Follow me on Plurk

    August 24, 2008
  • I went through this a couple years ago. Thankfully I had all my pictures and video on an external hard drive. Invest in one for about $100 as it will save you that in hair replacement procedures.

    Good luck, I will rub the computer genie lamp for you and make a wish that it all gets saved!

    August 24, 2008
  • Everyone always says something about backing up AFTER something bad has happened – however, I have to say, I started using Carbonite.com – it backs up all of your photos and documents for $50 a year. I have already had to use it to restore my documents and it is a BLESSING!

    I am so sorry about your computer, I swear the computer really does taunt me, too.

    Kristins last blog post..I found a family!

    August 24, 2008
  • That STINKS!!!!! My computer is about to die as well…..I feel it…. I am tempting fate every time I shut down the computer….. and I pray that it will turn back on…..

    Good luck. I am sure that your files can be retrieved. May the computer tech gods look down on you favorably.

    Corinas last blog post..Can I chase monkeys around your establishment? I’ll pay you!

    August 24, 2008
  • oh honey, I’m all jittery just thinking about it…

    but oh how I needed the laugh.

    seriously girl, you crack me up.

    I suggest a MAC. And a computer genius/nanny/maid/chef combo which you can hire with all your extra cash.

    Tara Rs last blog post..You Are Special

    August 24, 2008
  • Mine did that, too. It was the power adapter. DON’t get a knockoff brand, that one only lasted 2 weeks. When I got mine we got 2 at the same time and both power adapters went out within a month of each other, about 14 months or so after we got them, heavy usage on both. Dell Inspiron 1501
    I hope that’s all it is.

    Lisa has 6 daughterss last blog post..Dallas Checklist

    August 24, 2008
  • ACK!!!!!

    *shakes fists in the air*

    I don’t know if you’ve tried this, but maybe you need to bhoooooooooooooooot it up…

    Heheheheh. Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

    imaginary binkys last blog post..Yo momma so poor she saw Obama for free

    August 25, 2008
  • Omg. My Dell that I bought in March crapped out recently too. After 2 months, 4 trips to the Dell repair place, and a complaint to the BBB I finally got a refund out of them. Most frustrating two months of my life so I feel your pain.

    I hope the tech nerds can fix it for you!

    Amandas last blog post..Tuesdays with Dorie – Granola Grabbers

    August 25, 2008
  • note to self…back up all my pics…

    Yikes! Hope everything is safe! Good luck.

    kspins last blog post..Tis Time…

    August 25, 2008
  • Well, that happened to my E-Machine once and that was because Norton had gotten corrupted and crashed the computer. They could fix that at Best Buy.
    But I’ll tell you, anytime me or my mom has tried Dell it ends with the computer turning into complete shit within a year and then a succession of malfunctions for the next one or two years until we give up and save for another computer. Dell is crap, in my opinion.
    My E-machine never let me down and my parents have had a lot of success with HP. I want a Mac but I’ll have to get a gooood job before that is even in the realm of imagined purchases here.
    Good luck with your crap…I mean, um, your Dell.
    *crosses fingers*

    Lilacspecss last blog post..Weekly Winners – August 17-23

    August 25, 2008
  • Amy

    Under a year and not still under warranty? Call Dell quick before 1 year anniversary comes!!!!!!!

    Amys last blog post..Snapshot

    August 25, 2008
  • Oh fuck? Nathan’s computer just caught a virus and died and all I could say was ‘DON’T TOUCH MINE WITH YOUR INFECTED VIRUSY GERMS!!!’

    And you have just inspired me to actually back my stuff up. Thanks.

    (Fingers crossed that you can get everything back off the hard drive and that you don’t have to sell Braden to pay for it)

    Veronicas last blog post..Black Humour

    August 25, 2008
  • That sucks, Lotus. You still made me giggle, though, especially the closing line to the closing letter. 😉 Good luck.

    Maggie’s Minds last blog post..Weekly Winners 8/24/08 – Portland, Oregon Edition

    August 25, 2008
  • Oh I feel your pain so much. I had three pc’s kick me in my girly nuts within a year(and no I don’t surf to naughty sites). I eventually through such a tantrum, begged, pleaded and saved up, and eventually offered my hubby extensive s3xual favours if he’d break our budget and buy me a mac. 18 months on, and I am still worshipping at my Mac temple :) If you can spring it, go for it. You will NOT be sorry I assure you. Until then, I seriously hope some nice techy can resurrect your Dell (I’m shocked Dell is normally such an awesome brand) and that you won’t be out of touch for too long. FYI (not that I’m seeking linkage or visits or anything) I started a second blog just two days ago, which is about all things Mac-ish if you want to take a look see swing by and say hi at www dot macnessa dot com

    Cheers and good luck!

    Nesss last blog post..Emotionally ready to go…

    August 25, 2008
  • river

    Damn! I’m going out tomorrow after work and buy that external hard drive I’ve been promising myself. not that I’ve got much to back up, but still……..

    August 25, 2008
  • Michelle

    We have 10 or 12 computers hooked up together at our place (yes my hubby is a computer nerd who builds computers for others as a hobby) – none are macs (we have friends who swear by them though). My hubby says that Dell use good parts, but they are old stock – when new and improved bits come along they use the older stuff to make Dell comps and the new stuff gets into the other brands.

    Hubb thinks your prob could be the power supply or possibly faulty ram (neither of which will affect your HD). Hope he’s right, because they are relatively cheap to fix, compared to the motherboard. Praying he’s right for you. :)

    August 25, 2008
  • Had the same symptoms. Replaced hard drive. Son tried hard drive on his machine and was fine. Turns out the IDE cable was toast. Grr. Much cheaper to replace cable than hard drives. Bonus. Got to keep all my data.

    witchypoos last blog post..The Vagina Rocks

    August 25, 2008
  • yep, I have had it happen 3 times to my PC and now have Dell with a 5 year plan where they will come to my house and fix it if anything happens- my techie cousin set that up- he’s got the ‘in’- BUT I will always drool and long for a Mac- much like you with a Dyson.

    August 25, 2008
  • ACK! This happened to me recently (strangely on a DELL, too…) I am sitting here looking at my new computer and glad to be rid of the old one. We were lucky enough to see the problems arising ahead of time and copied my photos onto disk, which, DUH, is what I should do ALL the time…

    Sorry, off track. I TOTALLY understand the loss of pictures. We lost all of the pics of my third pregnancy because my camera wasn’t working properly and I didn’t know it until 6 months later when I finally got my butt to the photo lab… Many, many tears were shed.

    traceys last blog post..So. What do YOU think?

    August 25, 2008
  • I just showed your post to my four-year-old Dell Inspiron 600m and told her she better not get any ideas…

    Assertagirls last blog post..A chance.

    August 25, 2008
  • I hear you hon. My computer has been acting like an effing bitch too. It’s always on a Sunday too! My favorite blogging day, Weekly Winners!

    I double and triple protect my photos cause I have a history of being hard on computers (they peter out on me quickly) and a slight OCD-personality.

    1.) I put them all on a disc. At the end of the month, I sit and copy each and every photo I’ve taken that month to discs. It’s expensive but worth it. 2.) I make discs for my mom to take to her house each month–I leave my nature and artsy photos out of those. Those are just photos of Emma I have. Those are the truly priceless ones as you know. 3.) I have two external harddrives that all of my photos are on. So, if my computer goes ka-blooey, I have my photos on seperate drives that aren’t connected to the computer.

    Just some ideas so you don’t have to worry so much in the future.

    AnnDs last blog post..Weekly Winners!

    August 25, 2008
  • So you got screwed and the Dell didn’t even kiss you first. Typical.

    Allies last blog post..Confessions of an Obsessive Compulsive Mom

    August 25, 2008
  • I hope you can have your computer fixed — that it is something simple as suggested in other comments. I personally have no suggestions or ideas about why — I know I should back up my photos, but I also know that probably won’t happen — I just want to drop by wish you well and thank you for the grins.

    Patsy Bains last blog post..100 Word Challenge — Faster

    August 25, 2008
  • Dear Lotus. It’s probably nothing more than a failing power supply. I don’t know where or how you got your Dell, but it is simple to replace them. They are not ‘fixable’ – you must replace them. That said, Dells are fairly simple to work on. And power supplies don’t cost too much.

    Lou Lohmans last blog post..I hate it when that happens

    August 25, 2008
  • Ack! Deep breaths in and out. I’ll keep my fingers crossed that the geekdorknerd buys can flip a switch and say, “Computer, heal thyself.”

    Good luck!

    perpstus last blog post..C’mon…Mikey likes it….

    August 25, 2008
  • Kay

    watch. this is when Karleigh will try and sell you an Apple

    August 25, 2008
  • Urgh. I can so relate. I recently had a similar break-down which dragged on for 10 days and had me right at the edge of my sanity ( and somtimes actually toppling over) but alas: they say all is well that ends well. Not too convinced that that is true though, as I think I might have permament psychological damage (as in post traumatic stress) after that episode. Computers and all things IT can’t be trusted, but still we depend on it with our lives. I can only wish you the very best of luck and assure you that I will be praying with great dedication to the IT god that your problems be fixed ASAP…

    Karins last blog post..Weekly Winners: 17 – 23 August

    August 25, 2008
  • Oh noes! I lost a year and a half worth of photos several years ago due to a technical error/miscommunication with tech support. I wept openly about it. This was before Flickr or me having the foresight to back stuff up. Hoping it all works out for you!

    *pixie*s last blog post..turn the page

    August 25, 2008
  • Hockeyman

    1. Buy an external Hard Drive and copy everything you possibly can.
    2. Try booting into safe mode and see if you can network the machine with the old compy to copy said files you just cannot lose.
    3. Buy a Mac. Run Windows on Mac if you MUST have Windows. My work iMac is on it’s 22nd consecutive day of perfect operation. Only 22 days because thats when the last update was installed.
    4. Call Dell tech support.
    5. If no #4, see the big box store tech support folks.
    6. Send it to nerdy friend like me to see if any magic can be worked. Include system restore disks provided by manufacturer.

    Hockeymans last blog post..List of Stuff I like

    August 25, 2008
  • Damnitt. You didn’t get Complete Care? Dell’s customer service with that package is AMAZING. Next time love!

    Get it fixed fast! :)

    Marias last blog post..Even the most perfect couple isn’t perfect.

    August 25, 2008
  • That happened to me once, it was a virus. We were able to get everything off the hard drive by slaving it to another computer, then reformatted it and all was good.

    Memarie Lanes last blog post..Our Lady of the Downstairs Bathroom

    August 25, 2008
  • I want to help, as a geek, but since I’m far away I’ll just say that it doesn’t sound like a hard drive issue. Might be overheating. Let it sit for a full day and try again. Maybe a fan blew out. If it starts to work, try to get the cover off and set up a fan to blow inside the computer.

    Someone else mentioned a bad power supply which could also be the culprit. That is a very easy fix, and new ones cost about $20 (plus labor).

    I’m almost positive it’s not a virus since it turns off before getting to Windows and it actually turns off, it doesn’t freeze. Definitely power supply or too much heat.

    Hope this helps!

    SarahAs last blog post..Our New Apartment

    August 25, 2008
  • Oh, that has happened to me and it totally sucks. I feel for you. But at least you have an older computer to plug in. Imagine being totally cut off. It’s madness!

    August 25, 2008
  • OK, to avoid data loss, if there’s nothing wrong with your actual hard drive, which it kind of sounds like there’s not (and which would be surprising given the age of the computer) just make sure that wherever you take it they don’t wipe the drive or take the drive and throw it out or something.

    It probably is under warranty if it’s less than a year old, you might want to try going through Dell directly. If there’s something faulty about the hardware it should be covered. If it’s software I’d imagine not, though.

    Just be careful to make sure whoever helps you understands that the hard drive has data on it that you don’t want to lose if at all possible. If there’s nothing wrong with the hard drive there’s no reason why you should lose that data. You can swap hard drives into new computers, etc. or copy the data off.

    From a semi-techie-nerdy girl reader.

    Jenns last blog post..Some photos from Maine trip…

    August 25, 2008
  • I am kissing my computer right now and telling it how much I love & appreciate it, because I, too, SO cannot afford a computer repair bill right now anytime in the next 500 years.
    I’m so sorry your computer is sick.

    dysfunctional moms last blog post..Saturday Stuff

    August 25, 2008
  • Kate

    you should have drop kicked it… then you could get a mac… oh, glorious mac… no crashing… no lost pictures… no temperamental begging… no restarting… just perfect working function each and every time… reading your post makes me love my mac even more… especially for photos and videos… hopefully it will be a quick cheap fix for you… then… get a mac… once you go mac, you can never go back :)

    August 25, 2008
  • Susanne

    Ohh, words of comfort to you…if you could get your screen to come up at all…it is quite likely your pictures won’t be lost. I just had that happen two months ago and hadn’t backed ANY of my photos up for TWO years and phots are very important to me! Get it to someone quickly so you can have peace of mind that your pictures or ok. My problem was my anti-virus had stopped working, but still said it was, and there were literally hundred of pieces of junk which had slowed it to a stop.

    August 25, 2008
  • Jessica A.

    If you’ve had your compie for less than a year I would call dell you prob have warranty on it and wills fix it! DOO TA DOO! I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you!

    August 25, 2008
  • That sucks! I’ll say a prayer for you and your computer…

    missy wigginss last blog post..Weekly Winners 8/17-8/23

    August 25, 2008
  • Oh no, so sorry~puter problems suck big~that’s all there is to it!

    My original comment was going to be, “Maybe now you CAN has laptop” but then I read the part of your post where you stated all that you’re saving for :( Maybe soon though 😉

    I hope you get your puter repaired soon & that it doesn’t cost a big wad of $$!

    Connies last blog post..Weekly Winners=August 17-23 2008

    August 25, 2008
  • Yam

    Sounds like a power supply or maybe RAM. See if it runs any longer after cooling off for several minutes. This won’t solve your problem but it will provide some clues.

    If you can find a techie friend nearby, you might see if they could swap out a power supply or RAM from another computer just to make sure that’s the problem. And they could take a quick look at your motherboard for any exploded capacitors or other damage. They can also slow down your clock speed in BIOS which might help it to keep running until your replacement parts arrive.

    When you buy your replacement parts, it would be a really good time to pick up an external hard drive for backing up those pictures every week or two.

    August 25, 2008
  • Tatiana

    Same thing happend to my dell! They said it was the motherboard which costs as much as a new computer. I bought a gateway this time…. i will never buy another dell!

    August 25, 2008
  • Raging Dad

    Oh no, that sounds bad. My wife just made me backup all of our pictures because she is certain that something akin to this will happen to us. Good luck!

    Raging Dads last blog post..Final thoughts on the Olympics

    August 25, 2008
  • Computers, its a love hate relationship. We bloggers depend on them to keep us going.
    Sorry about your troubles, I have been there. I hope its fixable.
    New to your blog, your funny!
    Off the wall question, I was looking at some of the pictures here, do you use cloth diapers? I do and I love them.

    Military Wifes last blog post..I Miss Daddy…

    August 25, 2008
  • Shouldn’t that little puppy be under warranty?

    oh Lotus honey. So sorry. Sending healthy fixable computer vibes your way.

    :-(

    rachels last blog post..Mouthwatering Monday: Campfire Burgers and Veggies

    August 25, 2008
  • Kim

    Sounds like your cooling fan died. Was it feeling a little feverish before it decided to ruin your day? This happened to me right before the end of school last quarter, perfect timing. My laptop was laying in pieces on my desk for a week while my hubby fixed it.

    Kims last blog post..SkyWatch Friday: Night Skies

    August 25, 2008
  • I’m totally lost without my computer, and have had it (well, the old one) crash on me and I swear to god, I almost lost my mind!

    Luckily the hubby is a computer geek and managed to find out the problem and fix it.

    Fingers crossed your harddrive isn’t corrupted hun!

    August 25, 2008
  • TWO things made Madness peepee in her panties today ..
    the “Drop kick the son of a bitch method”
    and ..
    “i’ll touch your no-no spot”
    DAMMIT LOTUS YOURE GONNA GET ME FIRED!!!
    Love,
    Madness

    Madnesss last blog post..SneakPeek ~ MaxX and Madness ~ The Weekend Edition

    August 25, 2008
  • Ugh! Don’t get me started on Dell! When DH and I were first married he had a Dell, and when it started having problems just before its warranty expired, it took months of back and forth with the company before he finally got a manager with enough authority to replace the dratted thing. He just had the basic 1 year warranty, so they sent us the parts and expected us to put them in, and send back the old. Serious pain.

    I am much a fan of 5 year warranties on computers. I have one on mine, as does my older sister, and both of us have needed to take advantage more than once. Not Dells. Hers was an HP and mine was made by Fry’s Electronics.

    Your situation does remind me of either the situation with DH’s Dell, which finally turned out to be the motherboard, and so they replaced the machine, or when my power supply went out on my current machine. Neither one should lose you your data, but it’s a pain not knowing for sure.

    Stephanies last blog post..Go On a Bug Hunt – Free Fun Friday

    August 25, 2008
  • DON’T PANIC! ok, too many comments…I skimmed over all the yack about viruses and bad hard drives. That’s not your problem. Listen to the retired PC tech (that’s me)…your power supply has gone bad. Print out this blog post because it explains perfectly what your problem is and bring it and your PC to your nearest local Dell service center. Check your warranty status on the Dell website first of course.

    There are a couple reasons for the power supply to croak early. It could have been faulty from the start or, if you don’t have your PC protected by a good surge supressor (i.e. you have it plugged right into the wall) then a recent electrical storm or general flux in power on your lines could fry the power supply. This component is easy to replace and, if you aren’t still covered by your warranty, should NOT be that expensive. Call around and ask how much places charge to replace a power supply in your type of Dell. Don’t let yourself get ripped off. :-)

    Becky Ys last blog post..Oh boy…here we go again

    August 25, 2008
  • It does sound like a power issue. Power supply, fan, something. Because, like Sarah A said, it shuts off, and it does so before windows boots. And it did it in the middle of the whole F2 Bios setup thingy. It happened to me. In Bahrain with my laptop. :) It shouldn’t be too terribly expensive. :) Good luck.

    Momma Marys last blog post..It’s a Love-Hate Relationship.

    August 25, 2008
  • WE are currently having HORRIBLE COMPUTER PROBLEMS.
    ($&%)!!*^))!*&!&!!&

    Becks last blog post..Monday AGAIN

    August 25, 2008
  • Oh dear! I’m so sorry! :(

    Rebeccas last blog post..I know how Bob Costas is feeling today…

    August 25, 2008
  • I work for an internet provider and once had a techy boyfriend.

    Try all the basics first, unplug things and plug back in, leave for a day then try it again, then if it still doesnt work, try to ask around for someone who knows a techie to have a quick emergency look at it.

    Dont try to fix it yourself.

    It does suck. Mine has started opening internet explorer pages when I try to shut it down. It opened 50 the other day before I had to reboot it. Its only 3 months old, I suspect a virus.

    August 25, 2008
  • P.S In my experience, a blank screen is nicknamed ‘the screen of death’ and means your hard drive is fried. Hopefully thats not it though.

    August 25, 2008
  • Ree

    Lotus – I didn’t read through all of your comments, but your Dell is covered for a year. Honest it is. You just need your receipt and to call them.

    If they can’t fix it over the phone, they’ll come diagnose and fix it for you.

    I know this from personal experience, unfortunately. But it cost me not one red cent.

    Rees last blog post..Teachers – Past in Polaroids 3

    August 25, 2008
  • Oh my god – that was the funniest “my computer just crashed” post I’ve ever read. Seriously – you had me laughing.
    BUT – OH MY GOD. THAT SUCKS. I hope everything is nice and safe in there.

    Cathys last blog post..McCathy’s Tub – Now With More Poop

    August 25, 2008
  • Eve

    I’m so sorry.

    August 25, 2008
  • What can I say we here at this house hold owns a dell.

    Stop by when you get a moment.
    The coffee is always on.

    peppyladys last blog post..In the Know Accomplisment

    August 25, 2008
  • OH NO! I would say computers suck, but mine would probably get pissed and fuck with me. It did not too long ago, so I know your pain. I lost a lot of stuff and because of that, I have now invested in an external hard drive to back everything up.

    I hope yours can be fixed and nothing is lost…then sweetie, get the hard drive…it’s worth it.

    August 25, 2008
  • nik

    So, I don’t know what rock I’ve been living under, but this post is the first time I’ve read your blog. I am in looooove!

    -another sarcastic mom
    nik

    niks last blog post..Which just proves that I shouldn’t be allowed to think.

    August 25, 2008
  • beautifulmess

    same thing happened to our e-machine…power supply…hopefully that’s all it is

    *snuggles with her dell latitiude D500 laptop * goood dell…gooood girl

    beautifulmesss last blog post..then & now: baby toes

    August 25, 2008
  • I’m gonna have to say that from personal experience it sounds like you may have a virus. In which case, you really should not try to turn it on anymore, take it to a repair place and beg them to try and save your photos, and then when it gets reformated you’ll have your computer back.
    Good luck!
    This happened to me in grad school. No significant photos then since I didn’t have a digital camera, but can we say grad school work? Ay yi yi, I’m so sorry!

    Kristas last blog post..Yellowstone Part 1 – First There Was A Wedding

    August 25, 2008
  • Sorry that happened to you! It’s hard to imagine a day (or an hour even) without internet access. I hope someone can help you fix it.

    Karen of the MomDot Street Team
    http://www.MomDot.com

    Karen of Sillymonkeezs last blog post..Silly Monkey Stories: Wordless

    August 26, 2008
  • Amy

    Did you know that you have been nominated for some hot blogger calendar?

    http://hotbloggercalendar.com/gals/

    August 26, 2008
  • I’m not quite 100% tech nerd but I do teach people about technology for a living. While I can’t fix your computer from where I am, I can offer this advice to you and all of the people that commented that had a similar problem. Spend the $50/year and get an online backup service like Carbonite, http://www.carbonite.com. And no, I do not work for Carbonite nor do I receive any kickback from mentioning their name. As long as you keep your computer on, Carbonite will back everything up to the Internet during your computer’s idle times. Most people think $50/year is too much until something like this happens. Then they would spend 10 times that to get back their most precious memories like their digital pictures.

    If I feel I have helped at least one person reading your blog, I’ll be happy. Of course I would have been happier getting my no-no spot touched but sometimes you gotta make sacrifices.

    August 26, 2008
  • this is hysterical! well, not the broken computer thing but your storytelling. thanks, there’s tea spit all over my laptop now.

    August 26, 2008
  • I’ve been there. It’s expensive and mind-numbing, getting it back together. I no longer save pics just on my computer; they are all on Photobucket now (and on an external hard drive). Sorry; hope it all turned out better than hoped.

    Half-Past Kissin’ Times last blog post..Guess What?!

    August 27, 2008
  • […] course, it wasn’t free. I thought about offering to touch his no-no spot, and all, like I said before, but it really seemed inappropriate. Braden was there, after all. So I paid money. It hurt, but […]

    August 28, 2008

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